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War Robots Friday. Shocktrain, Game Modes and Tankers

by WR_Tofsla - 9.02.2018

This time we went for a slightly different format: instead of chaotically going from topic to topic, we picked and answered 5 top questions from last two weeks discussions.

Let's go!

Too many modes

Q: New modes keep coming and it becomes harder and harder to get the mode I want to play right now. This is deeply troubling for me — should I be ready for worse?

New modes are incredibly helpful as a tool for opening more unexpected facets to the game. We want to open the mind and find what else is possible in War Robots other than just running around knee-deep in blood, oil and spare parts (even though this is kinda the point). Make it so the game is always in a flux — but a healthy one. You should come into the game expecting something new and cool to see experiencing delight and curiosity — not the existential horror of “oh gosh, what do I have to grind for now“ kind.

By the way, we are extremely happy with the feedback on King of the Hill you gave us. Currently, KotH steadily holds 20-30% of all concurrent matches with those preferring speed over power and seems like we struck the vein for a particular style of players. And at the same time threads like this one allowed us to locate the issues that we’ll do our best to avoid in the future. Thank you!

King of the Hill ranks pilots by time spend on objective, not by damage — so speed-based builds start to rule there

Of course, with new modes come certain drawbacks — playerbase segregation is possibly the biggest culprit. We already have many players who enjoy playing exclusively TDM. Or sticking to the roots with Domination. Adding separate matchmaking queues is not the option here as it will hurt the matchmaking times and quality by a large margin.

But we also understand that you don’t want to be left at the mercy of random when it comes to picking modes. To soften the impact, we increased Domination and TDM reward multiplier (+10% and +33% respectively) earlier this week. Now you should get about the same amount of silver per match as you would in Beacon Rush.

In the meantime, we took a step back to check our priorities and see if we’re going in a right direction in how we handle new modes. There are many strategies we could adopt. Should we leave one queue for a fixed mode and rotate modes in the second queue? Or reshuffle queues and make it so, say, we have Domination+TDM and BR+KotH queues?

We’ll see soon.

Workshop 2.0

Q: When will Workshop 2.0 go live?

It is still pretty far away — a couple of months away at the very least. But once there's something new to unveil, we won't make you wait any longer!

Supply Drops: only Kumiho?

Q: The way it looks the only components in supply drops will be Kumiho components? Is this the case?

The goal is to switch Supply Drop contents every month or so. We'll begin with Kumiho, then rotating to something else — and so on.

We also plan to launch a poll where people will be able to vote for things they want to see in the next Supply Drop season. Stay tuned.

Leaving vs. Tanking

Q: In 3.6 you introduced a new pop up message about repercussions of leaving the match too early. Is it really enough to stop people from abusive activity like tanking?

No. Definitely not.

What we're actually doing with this popup is getting rid of the current "it's alright to leave, so just go" message that was there for eternity. Leaving a match is still okay in many cases, but the idea we want to plant is that there’s always a chance to ruin the game for your teammates if you leave them too early. Which is, of course, not alright.

This message alone is not going to stop hardcore tankers — would be naive to expect that to happen after the change so tiny. But the part of the issue comes from the fact that some people believe we support tanking — and we don't. We want to establish that clearly enough with proper wordings on our side.

There a lot of discussion going on which approach we should pick to handle matchmaking exploits.

For now, you can use this form to report players ruining your experience.

Shocktrain nerf

Q: Shocktrain is dominating in high leagues. Any plans on nerfing it?

We aren’t going to leave Shocktrain as it is, that’s for sure. We don’t want to nerf it into oblivion, as this would alienate thousands of people who enjoy using it (there's always two sides to the coin). But our goal is definitely to emphasize counterplay, allowing you to find weak spots in Shocktrain-packed enemies’ defence. This weapon should remain relevant — but not nearly as dominant as it is right now.

By the way, Shocktrain is not the only piece of equipment we’re looking at. We also want to bring many outclassed pieces — like Wild Bunch robots — to the forefront with some precise buffs.

We already have some solutions ready. As always, they will surface on the test server first — follow its official page and be ready for the upcoming week's announcements!

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mechblood7 days ago

Sheban, "Wallet warrior", haha thats funny. If you spend $100s on sw robots, then there is only one way to describe you: idiot. Just the kind pixonic loves. who cares if you win battles, anyone who spends 100s on the game is just plain retarted loser to me. If the robots were anywhere even half the price i would pay. And any of the bright minds over here talk about "oh they have to run a business" then you are even more stupid. yes making profit is one thing and pixonic have a right to do so but greed is something else and i for one is not going to be made a fool out of by a greedy game company that makes and sells digital robots for idiots around to buy

Lourdes201427 days ago

Alot of people that do like koth know how to win the game there are players in expert still flailing around just trying to kill everyone like he is going to win the game ....if he gets enough kills ....lol i personally like koth i move up the ranks so fast due to alot of peoples flailing....

GarciaMarquez3 months ago

Zero Jee, You're right. Pixonic isn't stupid or unaware. It's their hypocrisy that pisses off a lot of people. It's their lip service about fair play, tankers reporting form and their act against tanking that make me sick because they never do anything concrete to solve the problem. I personally don't mind paying. I still spend moderate amount of money to this day. If there's a good deal, why not? This game is a business after all and without paying customer, it wont't be available for us to play. So, yeah you're right. Tanking and sealclubbing is just a symptom, not the real problem. Yet again, it's their hypocrisy that pisses me off. They act like they're concerned but they couldn't care less because they do absolutely nothing to solve the problem.

Zero Jee3 months ago

So, everyones talking about tankers being the problem, and some rep is here blowing smoke up our asses ahout making it stop. LMAO. What a friggin joke!

People who tank aren't the problem. It is the manipulative matchmaking system which is designed to make you want to spend money to compete.

All Pigsonic needs to do is match players based on gear and hangars, rather that player level. I started a new account yesterday and am already at level 19. I have been encountering playerswith end game stuff in Bronze III . . . What a joke!

They rigged the progression system so you move up quickly, but obtaining weapons to compete at that level takes a lot longer. So you are being matched against people with premium gear when you only have a basic silver hangar.

What is Pigsponics fix? Add a respawn timer. LOL.

I was tanking too, but not so I could go seal clubbing noobs for gold, but just to be able to stay in the league that I could compete in and have a decent match. But that is not even viable any more, there are folks seal clubbing in leagues as low as Private league, before Bronze!

Pigsonic is not stupid, or unaware. Everything is very calclated in order to get an emotional response out of you (Jealousy, rage, etc. . .) and pushes you towards paying to be competetive.

The progression system should match the gear, and the gear should be assigned values that relegates it to certain leages. For instance, players using AU/WP bots and weopons should not be able to play in Bronze. Players with more that 3 slots or multople hangars should also be shut out of Bronze. In addition players should not be reaching level 20+ within 20 hours of game play and unlocking (but far from being able to purchase) end game content. The progression should match what you can currently use, and the match making algorithm should be matching players at the same level of play, and also similar gear and hangar slots.

If Pigsonic actually gave a dooky about it's player base this thread wouldn't exist. All of us f2p whiners are irrelevant, as long as some idiot is willing to pay hundreds of dollars for pixels.


Zero Jee3 months ago

So, everyones talking about tankers being the problem, and some rep is here blowing smoke up our asses ahout making it stop. LMAO. What a friggin joke!

People who tank aren't the problem. It is the manipulative matchmaking system which is designed to make you want to spend money to compete.

All Pigsonic needs to do is match players based on gear and hangars, rather that player level. I started a new account yesterday and am already at level 19. I have been encountering playerswith end game stuff in Bronze III . . . What a joke!

They rigged the progression system so you move up quickly, but obtaining weapons to compete at that level takes a lot longer. So you are being matched against people with premium gear when you only have a basic silver hangar.

What is Pigsponics fix? Add a respawn timer. LOL.

I was tanking too, but not so I could go seal clubbing noobs for gold, but just to be able to stay in the league that I could compete in and have a decent match. But that is not even viable any more, there are folks seal clubbing in leagues as low as Private league, before Bronze!

Pigsonic is not stupid, or unaware. Everything is very calclated in order to get an emotional response out of you (Jealousy, rage, etc. . .) and pushes you towards paying to be competetive.

The progression system should match the gear, and the gear should be assigned values that relegates it to certain leages. For instance, players using AU/WP bots and weopons should not be able to play in Bronze. Players with more that 3 slots or multople hangars should also be shut out of Bronze. In addition players should not be reaching level 20+ within 20 hours of game play and unlocking (but far from being able to purchase) end game content. The progression should match what you can currently use, and the match making algorithm should be matching players at the same level of play, and also similar gear and hangar slots.

If Pigsonic actually gave a dooky about it's player base this thread wouldn't exist. All of us f2p whiners are irrelevant, as long as some idiot is willing to pay hundreds of dollars for pixels.


GarciaMarquez4 months ago

Pilot FM9CUY, It's been two months since the last time we communicated through this forum. Now 3.8 is up and I really like FFA, as so many of my clan mates. During that time, I met many-many tankers and I have only reported few of them. I thought reporting is just a waste of time. At first I reported them because it eased my frustration, a little bit, now, not anymore. I never knew what became of my reports, truth is: I think my reports are sent directly to garbage bin because in the battlefield I still meet a lot of tankers. I don't even think LPQ does exist anymore. Battle reward is cool and I appreciate it but tankers are still rampant.

What makes me write this note to you is, what else? I've been repeatedly abused by tankers in the battlefield, all golds stolen, I've got minus points and my league has been going up and down like a yo-yo. You know it just made me think. Look back at what you wrote to me in this forum, Man. None of what you wrote ever happened in the field. The developing team doesn't have any will to do a real action against tankers. Tanking is still profitable, Man, it gets you golds, a currency you can convert to many valuable things. Who cares about battle rewards when you have chests of golds to spend in discount deals everyday? Free for All, Domination, King of the Hill? It doesn't matter. Tankers prevail, and they don't spend money, Bro, they don't have to. They have all the golds. In the opposite side, I've been spending considerable amount of money to the game and what do I get?

So, this note is not a feedback. I'm just expressing my dissapointment to Pixonic and to you. Please, take a moment to look back and read your comments to my notes. Does any of what you have written come into realization in the game? No, right? Maybe that's exactly the reason why tankers are still around to this very day.

GarciaMarquez5 months ago

Sheban, This is what so many players have been telling Pix for so long and they never listen. It's good that people like you (and me too) spend some money on the game. It makes the business running and available for us to enjoy. If you buy golds to speed up the upgrades and your overall hangar weight becomes considerably higher than your current league, that in itself is not fair for some battles ahead. If some lower level players reported you for being overpowered, you can't really blame because that's the fact they faced in the battlefield. However, I think your winning will eventually set your league to an appropriate level, so however bad your current situation is, it should be temporary.

I still don't understand why Pix wouldn't deal with the root of the tanking epidemic. Tanking involves a set of repeated behaviors. Going up and down the leagues, if shown as a chart in the statistics, will show a sinusoidal. It should be easy to detect. If you buy a huge amount of golds and speed up your upgrades, your statistics will look different. You'll go up the league, not down with deliberate poor performance. After 3.7 updates, with Battle Rewards which supposed to encourage players to go up instead of down the league, tanking is still rampant in the game. I'm only at Silver III, my total victories is less than 300, my robots and weapons are ranging from level 1-9, yet I faced opponents at the same league but their hangar is packed with maxed out dash bots and MkII weapons. How do I know that they are tankers, not paying customer like you? They have huge value in victories, sometimes they have winged trophies.

Tanking was and is still profitable. You farm golds by obliterating low level players and in this game you can convert golds into so many good and practical things. Battle Rewards is a good idea, I like it, but it doesn't make tanking decreases, let alone vanishes. You can get considerable amount of golds by tanking, you don't need to pay anything. Those tankers, they're not coward, they're greedy. I'm in a clan which opposes tanking and we fight in squad to increase our chance of winning.

Sheban5 months ago

Wow! “tankers reporting form”, SERIOUSLY??? This is really DAFT decision ever!

Every crying noob baby will be reporting and complaining about every single player *facepalm* who deems that opponents hanghar is far too OP.
Its like complaining to mum about being abused by elder brother.

I ended up today in LPQ without any apparent reason.

Again, I was buying quite a lot of gold in order to speed up my upgrades, now, am I guilty and must be reported for having better gear than others?

I have been grinding day and night through all events to get my Kumiho, Bulgasari, Haechi and Shocktrains and spent money on gold to speed up upgrade process.

Seriously, you people who dont grind nor invest real $$ expect to win with the old school Bots and Spirals against dash bots? Then cry and report when got killed? I am speechless *facepalm* game got ruined even farther.

There is no such thing as “fair” play today, some people play with what they have got, while others “wallet warriors” pay for preimum stuff.

I cannot call myself a “wallet warrior” but I do spend some money to speed up upgrades, as it takes ages and ages of waiting.

Another thing is that amount of rewarded silver after a battle, even with the “premium” is far too small, must be increased. This is one of the reasons why people tank.

Makes sense?

Yaxye Lucky5 months ago

When will the winners will be announced
war robot's please answer i can't wait😭 you make us suffer hope i will be people who got that robot inquisitor

Pinky Stiletto 5 months ago

Pilot FM9CUY, That would be great. I’m a newer player, started in January and am level 29. As a new player there is a difference between a new 29/30 player and a seasoned one. But I have been in some battles recently with Expert, Diamond and League winners and it’s obvious they have tanked down. One guy had a 5 hanger deck and on each deck he had maxed out Bots level MK2 with Mk2 weapons and yet he was in silver league 3. He killed my whole team so fast, the whole battle lasted one minute. This is just one instance, everyday I see tankers, I just finished a beacon rush battle with a tanker. He got over a million damage points while the rest of his team and mine did max damage around 300-400 k. It would be fantastic if there was some way to tell who these players are during the battle and not find out after the battle. Maybe make them glow poop brown or toxic green so we can see them across the battlefield lol.

StoneCraft CZ5 months ago

Dominate high league? Do you guys forget it ruins low leagues when pay to win players run there with mkII shocks and destroy everyone one hit? Thats supposed to be fun? Also, these people wouldnt even be allowed go into leagues like diamond. And thanks this, are weapons like thunders dying. Because camping=win (tulumbas, shocktrain,..)

GarciaMarquez5 months ago

Pilot FM9CUY, That'll be great! :) Actually, after fighting so many tankers, you could identify one almost immediately and be extra careful from the beginning. Players with adequate experience will develop that sense and in some cases, players work together on attacking the tankers. I was just wondering that with an in-battle marking, collective attack would be more immediate and coordinated. I think it would result in a more challenging conditions for tankers to dominate the game play, thus giving the rest of the player a bit sense of fairness.

LoucustMaster1175 months ago

Pilot FM9CUY, You may need to have a little chat with the guys who did the animation on the ‘Whats next for War Robots’ Mercury video. I’m no expert, I mean of course being a poor man such as myself I do not actually own the robot but I’m pretty sure that the Inquisitor does indeed feture a heavy slot somewhere in it’s arsenal.

Pilot FM9CUY5 months ago

GarciaMarquez, Yes, about that. Last I saw the devs were actually working on a "mark" feature for tankers. The mark was like a running man to signify their dishonourable behaviour of running from battle and deserting allies. It'll even show up on their profiles and scorecards after battle.

GarciaMarquez5 months ago

So, this is just an idea.

Update 3.7 is up with the Battle Rewards and all, though it hasn't active yet. I understand that it will encourage people to play their best and going up the ladder instead of down. However, I still think that tanking is still profitable. If you're a Gold player tanker, playing against Bronzes is easy. You'll be on top of the winning team and reap 10 golds, lots of silvers from high damage, etc. Winning 10 golds is a lot. If you play 20 games a day and win, and finish daily tasks too, you'll have lots of golds in short amount of time.

In battle, you know what it's like to face a way higher level of tanking opponent. You don't stand a chance! So my idea is: mark the tankers. If Pixonic makes a set of algorithm to identify them, I think it should be visible in the gameplay (e.g., a different color for the tankers' name). Seriously, you'd need a whole team of normal player to kill the tankers. I think we should make things a bit difficult for them and add a little bit of fair play to the game. Pixonic doesn't have to punish them, we–the players–will get them. And marking will also attract tankers in both teams so you'll see tankers in one team will immediately focus on the tankers in the opposing team instead of preying on weaker player.

So, why don't you make the rule, Pixonic? Define: what is tanking? What set of behaviors could be consider tanking? Then, mark them tankers. You don't even need to punish them, let the marking changes the dynamics of the game. Battle Rewards is cool but tanking is still profitable. The day to day reality in War Robots is, if you play fairly and honestly, it's hard, full of stress, almost zero fun, you get nothing. You endlessly complaining to Pixonic and reporting without knowing the result of your contribution. In contrast, tanking is easy, free of stress, fun and profitable. Players can play free and in a month get enough golds to sophisticate their hangar. This could result in damaging the business because they don't buy anything and they ruin the gameplay. So, my idea: MARK THE TANKERS. Let us do the dirty job of dealing with them, altogether.

LoucustMaster1175 months ago

Pilot FM9CUY, I was referring to robots (and weapons) actually. Previously everyone had access to silver bots, they were the mainstay and backbone of any hanger and in many cases still are. Workshop bots were the highest tier, the robots that were, by function made to be superior than the silver bots as a natural progression to keep the game interesting with gold bots acting as a kind of optional extra. Like if you wanted more speed early on the Gepard was a very powerful choice but as you level up it is eventually eclipsed by the Stalker. If you needed a lot of firepower you bought the Fury though it didn't do anything else (it was very purpose built). Gold itself is also acquired very slowly so have to be careful about how you use it. With the introduction of the Knights of Camelot and Wild Bunch gold has been given kind of it's own tier. At the moment almost all of the new bots added have been medium class and they just absolutely dominate anything else though if more light and heavy bots were to be added they would all become tier 4 the "Stealth/Dash tier" as it were.

Pilot FM9CUY5 months ago

Lecygne, Hello!
So sorry to keep you waiting. Well, as it turns out apparently your ticket was closed because they can't help you. Which means I probably can't as well. But, I'll see if I can do something. Since its the weekend, and people are busy with the new update and all, it might take a while though.

Apologies again.

Pilot FM9CUY5 months ago

LoucustMaster117, Higher tiers as in?

Personally, I'm happy with Supply Drops. I got a free Kumiho, on my way to a second one from it just for opening the app 2 times a day.

LoucustMaster1175 months ago

Pilot FM9CUY, Hey, there`s nothing wrong with making higher tiers but having them so inaccessible to both new and old free to play gamers? Just saying.
You know I wouldn't mind it so much if only I could consistently get the right components (3016 Bulgasari and counting) plus you and I both know that the supply drops are a joke 1 vote in 10,000,000 doesn't count for jack.

(Here's to hoping that the new and "improved" workshop takes care of that).

Lecygne5 months ago

Pilot FM9CUY, Hello FM9CUY,
I'm coming back to you because I do not know if my request to get a little something about my viewing problem of the advertising video has been accepted or not. My technical problem is referenced under error code 17937 at Pixonic. This problem has been resolved by technical support.
I'm sorry to use you as a messenger. You are my only human contact with Pixonic.
My email address is infosgame1@gmail.com
Thank you for your help.
Lecygne
ID Player: RSWFWQ
Nickname: Lecygne25

Pilot FM9CUY5 months ago

GarciaMarquez, Yes, we are definitely looking at some of those parametres to differentiate tankers. Don't worry, we'll have them all soon!

Pilot FM9CUY5 months ago

Arslan46, Honor Rewards are coming the next update or the one after it, so don't worry. There are more changes planned to the Supply Drops as well that aims at further decreasing tanking. Don't worry, we have your back!

cipowar5 months ago

un consejo pix : estube jugando sandorstorm se trata de una nave con armas que va de forma pareja o sea a la par de su adversario las batalla empiesa con mismo nivel de nave y armas y va aumentando al obtener vistorias ,y al escalar en la liga hay 3 faciones que luchan por obtener la victoria y cada jugador hace lo que puede y escala en la lista de los mejores , algo asi tendrian que implementar ustedes , si ya se de nada son $150000 ,jajjaja mi id de jugador BV3LGL soy CIPOWAR ,OJALA ME HAGAN CASO CREO QUE SERIA LA SOLUCION A LAS LIGAS POR QUE ESTAN TODAS MESCLADAS Y YA NO ES DIVERTIDO ,no se si me logre expresar bien con lo que quise decir cachetaso y a despertar che...

cipowar5 months ago

un consejo pix : estube jugando sandorstorm se trata de una nave con armas que va de forma pareja o sea a la par de su adversario las batalla empiesa con mismo nivel de nave y armas y va aumentando al obtener vistorias ,y al escalar en la liga hay 3 faciones que luchan por obtener la victoria y cada jugador hace lo que puede y escala en la lista de los mejores , algo asi tendrian que implementar ustedes , si ya se de nada son $150000 ,jajjaja mi id de jugador BV3LGL soy CIPOWAR ,OJALA ME HAGAN CASO CREO QUE SERIA LA SOLUCION A LAS LIGAS POR QUE ESTAN TODAS MESCLADAS Y YA NO ES DIVERTIDO ,no se si me logre expresar bien con lo que quise decir cachetaso y a despertar che...

cipowar5 months ago

Lecygne, totalmente de acuerdo con vos no solo los campers si no tambien los farmers pr qu he visto jugadors con 3500 victorias y bots ,armas level 11 o 12 en ligas de oro para abajo

cipowar5 months ago

hasta ahora es la unica arma que usan todos he participado en batallas y ha habido hasta 5 jugadores con bulgasary y shocktrain al mk2 ya que soy liga maestro 3 es frustrante ,la batalla termina al minuto de haber empesado ya que en mi equipo me tocan jugadores de liga baja y de adversarios de ligas mayores ej: con 8900 pts de liga campeon 3 o 4 almenos la manera que buscan a los participantes es deplorable tienen que arreglar eso siempre tocan oponentes de mayor liga casi nunca de ligas menores o iguales heterminado 1 ro ,2do ,3ro y pierdo puntos 11 , 17 , 22 aun halla sido el que halla capturado mas balizas y muertes eso es malefico de su parte mi id de jugador es BV3LGL plataforma gameroom , lo que estaria bueno tambien es que den al guna recompensa por jugar seguido a parte de los gotas ,ya que en androi e ios por ver videos obtienen mas ventaja reduccion de tiempo, llaves ,ayuda en las misiones tendrian que implementar algo paresido en gameroom .
otra cosa que he visto es en ligas bajas jugadores con mas de 3000 victorias y liga bronce ,plata ,oro con bots elevados al 11 o 12 tambien en armas.he raad d dnunciar a los 2 mails que tienen pero nada de nada ambas respuestas fueron las mismas qu no realizan ayuda con como se juega el juego ,malisimo de su parte tambien y falta de respeto .sin mas ojala mejoren !!!!

cipowar5 months ago

hasta ahora es la unica arma que usan todos he participado en batallas y ha habido hasta 5 jugadores con bulgasary y shocktrain al mk2 ya que soy liga maestro 3 es frustrante ,la batalla termina al minuto de haber empesado ya que en mi equipo me tocan jugadores de liga baja y de adversarios de ligas mayores ej: con 8900 pts de liga campeon 3 o 4 almenos la manera que buscan a los participantes es deplorable tienen que arreglar eso siempre tocan oponentes de mayor liga casi nunca de ligas menores o iguales heterminado 1 ro ,2do ,3ro y pierdo puntos 11 , 17 , 22 aun halla sido el que halla capturado mas balizas y muertes eso es malefico de su parte mi id de jugador es BV3LGL plataforma gameroom , lo que estaria bueno tambien es que den al guna recompensa por jugar seguido a parte de los gotas ,ya que en androi e ios por ver videos obtienen mas ventaja reduccion de tiempo, llaves ,ayuda en las misiones tendrian que implementar algo paresido en gameroom .
otra cosa que he visto es en ligas bajas jugadores con mas de 3000 victorias y liga bronce ,plata ,oro con bots elevados al 11 o 12 tambien en armas.he raad d dnunciar a los 2 mails que tienen pero nada de nada ambas respuestas fueron las mismas qu no realizan ayuda con como se juega el juego ,malisimo de su parte tambien y falta de respeto .sin mas ojala mejoren !!!!

GarciaMarquez5 months ago

Pilot FM9CUY, I appreciate your works at isolating tankers. Just in case this information would be of any help, tankers would have:
- high amount of victories (3K+)
- high amount of max damage (1M+)
- high amount of max destroyed (10+)
- five high level robots
- high level weapons
- sometimes more than one hangar
- low trophies
- low league (Bronze+)

Arslan465 months ago

Yes, KOTH was excellent mode at the beginning. Now it is frustrating. Most of players just sit in base beacons and run between them and don`t give a s**t for team victory and don`t want to help you. They just let you solo fight reds and die. Of course that is the way how you lose match and plenty rank points mostly 11, 17 and 22. But when we win because I fought reds for central beacon I collect 3, 4 and sometimes 10 rank points and in next match I lose 22. Stupid rank point system. Need to introduce honor rewards, report system so we can report selfish players so they can get less points and their points to be given to other players. Also in game chat need to be introduced so we can coordinate attacks. That is the reason I quit KOTH mode.

Pilot FM9CUY5 months ago

GarciaMarquez, Well, it takes a lot of time to process tanker reports because honestly, people have been very ingenious in their methods. Therefore, it has to be judged very carefully unlike hacks and cheats which are easier to detect and can be automated.

I'll see what can be done about the tanker in question.

Pilot FM9CUY5 months ago

GarciaMarquez, Well, it takes a lot of time to process tanker reports because honestly, people have been very ingenious in their methods. Therefore, it has to be judged very carefully unlike hacks and cheats which are easier to detect and can be automated.

I'll see what can be done about the tanker in question.

Haywoodja Blome5 months ago

Maybe you should make a video on "The art of tanking" when a Diamond 2 pilot hangs up 1.8 million, more than 5 blue diamond 2 pilots put together, you've got a problem.

GarciaMarquez5 months ago

Pilot FM9CUY, I have a situation like this: I have met this Player ID: W17IF1 more than once. I reported him more than once. We fought in normal league. He has 7000+ victories, his hangar consist of maxed out robots and weapon (Lancelot, Bulgasari, Haechi, Kumiho, plus new and dangerous weapons), but he's only at Bronze I. In the other hand, I'm a new player. I only have 109 victories. I only have 4 robots and weapons at level 5-6. I'm at Silver II.

Playing honestly is not appreciated in War Robots. Paying a lot of money does, because you can be a tanker if you want. My question is: why he is still fighting in normal league? Has he been sent to LPQ? How do I know that my report has been processed? Why do I met this player again? He's a damn tanker and I've reported him! Three times! :(

Hersh5 months ago

I think you change Shocktrain like this!
change ranges from 500m to 600m
and only damage the robot you target.
Everything else should be what it is.

Sergei Kaufman5 months ago

Slash-1966, по-моему разработчики ни хрена не думают Я тоже перестал практически играть в то время когда Смешали режимы потомучто Невозможно играть ты получаешь задание по захвате Маяков Нажимаешь кнопку игры и у тебя режим Смертельная битва Каким образом я могу в смертельной битве выполнить задание по маякам Да и вообще игра стало просто фу я захожу в игру только чтобы забрать призы и любимая игра превратилась просто так ещё одну игру но Надежда не умирает пока я жду что разработчики всё-таки додумаются сделать раздельные режимы как было Если же этого не случится я уже подыскала альтернативу и я покину эту игру

Pilot FM9CUY6 months ago

GarciaMarquez, Yeah, from what I can tell you, they are developing some anti-tanking measures that take into account all the behaviour associated with the act so far.

Yes, the reporting form is real and people do look through it!

Slash-19666 months ago

Valid complaints! you people at PIX pay close attention because I'm leading up to a point. I'm 51 years old and I was gaming before any of you were even born starting with Pong in 1972. I've been playing WR for 3 years and I know I have a clean record with 5194 victories I never paid money to get - and that's on my 3rd account alone.
1: With the Nov 17th 3.4 update came nothing but freezing and crashes on my Android. It got even worse with the Lunar New Year update. It was to a point that the game was unplayable. I couldn't into matches anymore and when I did they crashed. After following the Pix advice on how to cure the problem yesterday I did a full reset on my phone and did a clean install of WR. It still crashes and freezes! A mid game crash or freeze counts as leaving or tanking.
2: When I moved in January I had a very bad connection where I live and I lost connection dozens of times. Many matches had to be abandoned. This counts as leaving or tanking.
3: Tasks vs game modes. If we get tasks to capture beacons then we get dumped in TDM all day and leave before the match even starts THIS TOO counts as leaving or tanking!
4: Why the hell did you create a Deathmatch mode when the game is already Deathmatch!? The original mode called "Dominance" now is deathmatch! TDM- Nobody likes it and players eject on both both sides at the start. I've seen whole teams leave all but 1 player left on the team. Even dumber yet leaving counts as a kill for the opposing team. Clearly no one likes it! Least of all me because it doesn't lead to tasks being completed. So I leave before the match starts and this counts as leaving or tanking?
5: A couple of days ago I suspected I was in the LQ. I couldn't get matches anymore. I go for the remedy of creating squads. The 1st one is with a clan mate. Everything goes well until I hit To Battle. The game freezes!! Another tank or leave, right!? I reboot my phone and send a message to my clan mate apologizing for the problem. I finally got into a couple of matches yesterday. In one we had a victory. I was the best in the match. No gold, no silver, no keys. Reward? -- just over 2500 silver. WTH?? And no one else got rewards that I could see. What's the point of playing for battle rewards if that's all you get?

When do I actually leave? It's rare but I do it. When my idiotic Bronze League team mates have allowed us to be overrun within 20 seconds of start is a good time to leave. Why the hell are they even in Diamond matches? Why add a loser to my record for playing my best? Does this make sense? Not from a player perspective. Several days ago my victory rate was hovering around 70%. Today it's at 36% for being the best loser? STUPID, and a good reason to leave! So today while typing this out I waited over 22 minutes for a match that didn't come. Then I get a invite to a squad. To Battle--No players can be found in over 2 minutes? Leadership is xferd to me. Do it again. Cancel. Do it again. Nothing - no players found. Cancel. I review who is online in my lists. No one! Why?

HERE is your problem. No one wants to play anymore because of the pay-to-win players and their super bots. AND no one wants to play anymore because of random mode. I've already asked a few people about this - not to mention what people say on your Facebook page. I want to play but can't because of your screwed LQ and tanker penalties which aren't getting any tankers or league droppers. It gets people with buggy glitchy updates, crashing games, freezes, and bad connections. Meanwhile the tankers are free to play on. I'm seeing fewer and fewer players in matches these days. No more 6v6, more like 4-5, 5-6, 3-5 etc THIS SHOULD BE A HINT TO YOU. People aren't playing anymore.

BUSINESS? GUESS WHAT? You're seeing short term profits and it all looks good, right? But if the players with their pay-to-win MK2 super bots have no one left to shoot because of your screwed up system?--You'll be out of business soon. Trust me, I know. I own a business too and I've learned some lessons about doing things a little "too good". I do the jobs so well that they don't call back for years - they don't have to. So I had to change how I did things. You might want try the Henry Ford approach on your business model "cars for the masses". A few days ago I was going to use my credit card and finish the job of getting what's left on a Kumbo. I was sent to LQ instead. So now that can't play I can just sit and wait for a free Kumbo via the Supply Line drops9among other things. I'm a few days away from a free Kumbo now (let that sink in). Again, you missed the money.

RECOMMENDATION? It was the leagues that started the problem of tanking, and it was the random mode and update bugs that caused leaving. You might want to get rid of leagues and go for individual ranking like most other game devs do. Get rid of random modes and let players select what they want instead. and DEFINITELY get rid of themes. All the rewards tasks, puzzles, chests, drops... It has us doing everything but playing matches - which is the point of the game. I'm playing Robokrieg now because I can't play WR anymore. I'm seeing all the classic ranking structure and it's still the best way to do it. Since the game is relatively new and the devs are asking for player feedback I could easily see this game being very damaging to your profit margin. The WR copycat devs and apps are popping up all over Google Play. Why did that happen? What are taking advantage of? Pix losing players by the thousands. In my own clan only 10 of 26 play now. Why? Let be anecdotal for a minute. Early in my clan we had a pay-to-win player. Boy did he spend some money! He quit the day the leagues were released.

You folks have some thinking to do.

Good day
Slash-1966

GarciaMarquez6 months ago

Pilot FM9CUY, Okay, sorry for my harsh comment, I was frustrated. My point still stand, though. In my opinion, tanking would create a specific pattern which could be detected by looking at the statistics. In league ranking, e.g., the line would look sinusoidal because they go way down and way up. In battle damage, it would go very low for so many battles and then go up drastically. I don’t believe Pixonic doesn't know this. They sure do. Question is: why Pixonic doesn't take a deliberate action in stopping the tankers once and for all by algorithm in the first place?

Spending money for in app purchase is good. I personally hope Pixonic makes good business, but why tanking? If you have heavyweight hangar, play at your league, why bully new players? You know, I tried to tank my league down myself couple of times, but it's boring and quite stupid. Repeatedly destroying your robots and suicide with you last one is boring because you have to go a long way down. Even if you do that, it doesn't guarantee you a -22, sometimes your team wins and you get +3 instead. So I don’t understand how some tankers could go so low down to Bronze 3? And some of them have got winged trophies! What a patience! I don’t have that much patience so tanking doesn't interest me but playing honestly is painful because of them tankers.

So I was thinking, why Pixonic always try to deal with the symptoms instead of taking care the root problem?

Ok, enough of my rants. One more question. Tankers reporting form is real, yes? I hope it is. I reported a lot of tankers. Today I met *four* tankers, two in my team, two in opponent's. I had to screen-capture each of them and write down their ID manually, one by one, instead of just copying one ID. It's epidemic, it's the cancer of the game. I'm looking forward to seeing Battle Rewards takes effect. And I'm still hoping all the tankers could be fed to the Lions up there. Thank you for listening. :)

Lecygne6 months ago

Pilot FM9CUY, Hello FM9CUY,
I thank you for your help because I was not sure that my message sent last week come to his destination.
Here is my ID
ID Player: RSWFWQ
Nickname: Lecygne25
Best Regards

Pilot FM9CUY6 months ago

Lecygne, Bonjour LeCygne!
Cava?

Yes, we will introduce measures and ways to regulate such unruly players and hopefully stop unfair plays.
I'll send your request to the concerned people, but I need your ID first.

Lecygne6 months ago

Pilot FM9CUY, Hello FM9CUY,
I thank you for taking the time to answer my messages.
Frankly it would be great if Pixonic would manage to regulate the behavior of some players.
I think that many players share this opinion in order to have a fair competition (Fairplay).
Indeed I saw many comments (post) on the Forum of "War Robots".
After some players pay to have the latest robot or weapon, does not shock me. On the contrary these players help Pixonic company to develop by trading new products and new version of the game.
A little word to the developer team, I say "A big bravo and keep on going to give us pleasure"
Lecygne (Swan) - France

P.S: I reported Technical Support the error code 17937 "The Advertising video is not display". The Solution n°2 has been posted in the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ).
I sent a thanks message through my Cell and I asked if it would be possible to get a little something for the 3 weeks where I could not open the free bronze chests.
Could you suggest it look at my request? Thank you.

Pilot FM9CUY6 months ago

Lecygne, I can understand your concerns. As of now, I can assure you that the Supply Drops are going to get more tweaked in 3.7 and 3.8, and Battle Rewards will come which are designed as some anti-tanker measures.

As for repeat offenders...we are keeping a naughty list, and a repeat offender score :) They'll get harsher and harsher sentences each time.

The algorithm we have now has a few problems. For example, we look for a cheat some player's use called "lag switch" that deliberately introduces lag to help the player. However, the effect of lag switch is very similar to a poor internet connection. So, sometimes we need to be extra careful. But, from what I hear a much better algorithm is in the process of being made!

Lecygne6 months ago

Pilot FM9CUY, Hello FM9CUY,
I use the new form to report the players who seem to me to be campers by looking at their player profile (total Victories in relation to their rank in the League, the level of their robots and armaments, their average damage compared / related the number maximum).
I take a screenshot including both the Table of ranking and the Player profile.
Once in the Low Priority Queue (LPQ), the player will not receive Gold (Au), keys, he will have less Silvers and he will not lose his rank / status in the ranking, will not it.
After a certain number of rounds playing correctly and properly, the player will come out of this League Low Priority (LPQ). He's going to buy a good behavior.
After what guarantees do we have that he will not do it again and start again his bad behavior.
In the world of sport, we have a referee who intervenes to regulate and punish the bad behaviors of the players.
So the question I ask myself is why Pixonix does not set up an algorithm to detect the bad behaviors and why it rests only on players to denounce the bad behaviors through the new online form.
After I guess the new form is processed by a robot because you do not have the human time to process all the complaints.

Pilot FM9CUY6 months ago

GarciaMarquez, Your comment had to be deleted since it violated policies in place. Rest assured, it wasn't due to criticism; a lot of harsh criticism is still left on this page, undeleted. It was because of the language it was delivered in.

Please provide another reasoned, civil feedback without personal attacks on staff and groups of staff and I'll pass it on.

GarciaMarquez6 months ago

Your accountants don't like my comment, huh, Pixonic? They want it deleted. :D

Pyrotech4426 months ago

Dave Dave Crook, Matchmaking will not fix tanking. There are so many reasons out there and to fix all of them is nearly impossible. Some like to farm gold, not because of matchmaking. Others are sick of dash bots and tank to fight weaker robots. Then there is a handful who tank to try to win the grand prize in events.

Vortigan6 months ago

d1mk1n, Yes that is very much required. I can't even play a game without being shot down immediately by mk II weap9ns and robots

Vortigan6 months ago

MK3, Too late mate, they are super common now
You were correct there us no more fun 😢😭

Pilot FM9CUY6 months ago

Lecygne, I am sure because I am a mod and know about its existence. I have seen lots of people being sent there.

Well, we need to read and process each complaint about tankers so that we aren't reacting to some revenge-report, or some mis-attribution, so that's why it takes time. In a while, such behaviour will be severely punished and the lower leagues scoured clean hopefully.

You can always report such clans and players here: https://goo.gl/forms/r7mFMHzxOV9lSdMI3

MK36 months ago

Dave Dave Crook, To quote John Brown, sort of, "Pixonic is all talk; what we need is action - action!"
One problem that I don't share is the waiting. Maybe I'm just in a good time zone.
I don't like the random mode though. I hate KOTH and TDM. I think the originals are the best- BR and Domination.

Lecygne6 months ago

Pilot FM9CUY, Hello FM9CUY,
Thank you for your answer. Why are you sure Purgatory exists?
In each round, there is always one or two Tankers / Campers in the lower league.
If Pixonic had taken this problem seriously, long time these players will have calmed down.
It's just a game, nobody wins real money. On the contrary, we spend it.
I saw messages where the clan leader encouraged their members to be downgraded to win more medals (activity points of the week).
I do not understand this behavior. What honor is there to be ranked in the top 100 with this type of behavior?

MK36 months ago

Making shocktrain more accessable to more people won't help. If everyone has shocktrains, they'll just destroy each other at 500 m. There goes all the fun of the game.

MK36 months ago

ETC ROBLES, And when the reds come at you, you rip them apart with the shocktrains. This weapon needs a nerf.

Pilot FM9CUY6 months ago

Lecygne, No, no we read it. Takes a bit of time to process and judge all the complaints but eventually the nasty tankers are sent deep into LPQ purgatory!

Lecygne6 months ago

The Tankers / Campers are a plague, a parasite for honest players who want to progress.
I hope that with the new denunciation’s form, the information will be processed.
My fear is that the email address where the form will be sent would be a black hole.
I specify my thought. The form is sent but nobody to read it.

S46 months ago

Shocktrain est une arme de faible, au moins autant que l'était l'hydra. Pas de risque et des dégâts à coups sûrs.. le problème n est pas tant sa puissance, un orkan fait d'énorme dégâts et personne ne s'en plaint.. le problème c'est que quand tu en a 4, 5 voir 6 en face équipés full shocktrains mk2 et bien... tu fait comme tout le monde, tu arrêtes de jouer.. parce que franchement même en se payant des dash et des shocktrains, on voit plus l'intérêt de jouer.. 0 stratégie. Je me cache a 600m, je sort je tire, je me cache a 600m, je sort je tire.... wow quel ennuie !

Phenomenal6 months ago

#Thanks pix for making tanker reporting center

d1mk1n6 months ago

apparently I must be playing a different game to Tofsla. my experience, when playing solo I can never get into a game of KOH, the timer goes to 3 and 5 minutes without finding a game. makes me think that nobody is really playing KOH, the concept anyway is not very intelligent people running from the one beacon to the next, by the way I found this mode incredibly easy to win and usually the two team bars are very low and it matters who got the first beacon or how the next beacons lit up. in some maps like yamantau its a disaster, really some of the maps should be excluded from KOH.

for TDM, this has become an extremely boring game mode. everybody sits back waiting for the other person to come. the only thing that could make this mode interesting would be a circle of death ala player unknown with everyone forcing to come to the center and annihilate each other. its not even a good game mode when you need to make destroy robots for the event tasks. whenever I get TDM I leave the battle immediately so I get replaced with another player, in this way I dont ruin other peoples experience and also I dont ruin my experiencing by spending 10 mins in boredom (yes TDM matches usually run the full length of the match). the "group of many players who enjoys TDM" really puzzles me, this mode is good for campers.

the best would be for the player to have his own choice to group 2+2 game modes in two different buttons according to his preference. this would make two matchmaking queues as is now and let the players enjoy the game mode they like.

still the main flow of the game has not been addresses. its really hard to compete in champions with overpowered opponents that have 5 hangars all mk2. why should these people be pitted against normal hangars without any mk2 weapons and have a 20% advantage on everything? its not sporting or a challenge for them and definitely not fair for the other players. matchmaking needs to be improved to take into consideration hangar power - in this way tanking would not be possible anymore or be reduced significantly.

Tmoneyshot 6 months ago

Since you decided to ban my second fb account from posting on your page I hear you loud and clear- you don’t want me as a player anymore so I will spend my money on Battle Titans instead. Way to piss off your player base. You guys are the worst company, I am looking forward to the full release of Battle Titans and your downfall. Phu Q mail.ru. I hope you fail before you recoup your $30 million investment and I hope your whole team gets aids and dies.

Greg Taschdjian6 months ago

You don't need to nerf the shock, it's the pairing with the bulgasari that is the problem. Either nerf the bulgasari shield or buff trident to deal with the pairing of bulgasari and shocktrain. Make trident continuous fire like all the other rockets.

Dude6 months ago

ETC ROBLES, What will stop them them from their ultimate goal, which is to drop leagues for weaker competition, is to limit the use of higher leveled bots and weapons in the lower leagues. Take away their advantage and they are just players that can't utilize what most players develop through slow growth, which are a couple of things called skill and strategy. They are only low life's in the game, and pretty much in their daily life too.

Dude6 months ago

ETC ROBLES, If that were the reality of how it is, that would be acceptable, but that isn't even close. Where do you think most of the tankers end up? The money player tankers with the leveled up bots. They are in the lower leagues dominating the weaker and frugal players, then excuse that as some type of legitimate gaming. It is just low class assery. The developers have created the majority of these player issues just to cause strife and piss off some to pay for upgrades and new stuff, thinking it will help them get even or some lame thing like that. All it does is enrich the developer. Look at how they are constantly nerf in and buffing bots and weapons. It totally misleads the player in thinking that they are getting what they pay for, only to have it nerfed shortly afterwards. That is called fraud in most places, in Russia it is called business as usual. Just remember who runs so the game every time you get pissed at something in the game.

Papajofixit6 months ago

Everybody needs to lower their star rating to a more appropriate rating for the game 1 * that's all they deserve until they can stop their greedy ways why have a giveaway game if you're going to cheat people on it how stupid is that I have this really big green handled tool that you guys need to borrow is specifically designed to pull your head out of your ass

Papajofixit6 months ago

Here's a question for the Developers if you have 10 million downloads and a 2 million rating 2 million people rating your game why is there any wait times at all if you have so many players or is it because all your players who quit playing because of your selfish greed because I know for myself that I would spend more money on your game if your stuff was more reasonably priced and not so greedily priced and you'd probably have way more players logging on to play the game then there wouldn't be any wait times now with their but I don't know you guys have to make all your money on one person all at once instead of off of thousands of people a little at a time your ignorance amazes me because it seems anybody that develops a game this good should be smart but I guess that isn't the case here well like Forest mama said stupid is as stupid does keep up the stupid good work guys

Prateek6 months ago

Glad to hear that you are going to address long standing issues.
I have perfect solution for modes problem. YOU SAY THAT IF YOU SEPARATE ALL MODES MATCHMAKING WILL TAKE A LONG TIME THEN DO ONE THING. HAVE 4 SEPARATE OPTIONS FOR EVERY MODE PLUS RANDOM MODE.
PLAYERS WHO WANT TO SPECIFICALLY WANT TO PLAY A SINGLE MODE CAN CHOOSE IT AND HAVE PATIENCE WITH THE WAITING TIME. I'LL ALWAYS DO THAT.
AND THOSE WHO WANT TO PLAY INSTANTLY CAN CHOOSE RANDOM MODE WITHOUT WAITING FOR ANY TIME.
PLEASE CONSIDEER THIS AND ALSO CONSIDER GIVING 1 FREE HANGER SLOT TO EVERYONE.

ETC ROBLES6 months ago

ETC ROBLES, A better solution maybe to combine ALL games with beacons and leave TDM as a separate option. This would encourage lighter/faster bot in beacon modes and leave the heavy hitters for TDM. Yeah, that would do.

Panzer6 months ago

I see you guys saying your going to buff wild bunch robots, a few weeks ago you were rebuffing older bots to make them more viable. Changes will surface on the test sever you say. Well I just watched the lastest test sever. I saw nothing of revamping anything older to bring it to the forefront. I did however see more new weapons, they going to cost in excess of a hundred dollars like the latest ones? You added one new weapon and made it around 40 dollars, the medium vortex, made it easier to get, didn’t seem to need yet another missle/rocket weapon that wrecks most of a bots health in a single volley from where I’m setting. 3 new bots as well, more stealth bots, bot that jump and force land and take half the older bots health when they land, don’t need weapons , just landing cause over 20000 damage to anything near, and of course the hellburner, chaos, you seem to want chaos on the live server. Your not updating anything older, your just adding new content as fast as you can crank it out. Not to mention grouping all the fun modes into one random button. You win , I give, I see nothing positive happening, I’m not free to play, I did spend and it was a lot, I won’t say as I don’t wish anyone to think me some braggart. But I will say no more, I had a clan, I just turned over leadership to another member and I won’t play another battle. I’ll leave the game on my devices to check back a few times to see if someone at least attempts to fix the mess the new content has created. I’ve lost all faith in your company and won’t risk my money on any future game either. One more paying player out the door, seems you would stop this madness, I hung in there and kept hoping, apparently in vein. Congrats enjoy the chaos. I’m out , no more.

Tango Mike6 months ago

I've known pix is a Russian company, that being said anyone who isn't Russian have another reason not to pay to play and probably the most important one is any $ spent here will in one way or another most likely be allocated to there military in efforts to expand The size of there country and destabalize any peace that's left in the world and I'd go so far as to say start WWIII. I'm also guessing that this game is collecting any and all Intel on players and any other valuable pieces of intel they can gather on there enemy's which is everybody l, especially Americans.....

Dark Eye Knight 6 months ago

About the game modes , I have a good Idea
but first we need to understand that any mod have a 3 type of players , players who love the mode , and those who just accept the mode , and players who hate the mode

so how about (rotating an increase in battle rewards) on the game modes ?
it would be like :-
1- make the players chose any mode they want to play (no more random mode)
2- declare an increase in rewards on one of the modes so the players so the players who love the mode be satisfied and those who accept the mode find it more interesting to play , and then the players who hate the mode still can chose the mode thy find it fun to play .
3- move the increase in reward to another mode

like this you will satisfy all kind of players , and reward those who can play any mode , and also those who want's to play only one mode can have won't be sad because they are forced to play modes they hate .

for example , I love BR , I accept Domination and KotH , and I really hate TDM ... when I see an increase in rewards on BR I'll be happy , when I see it on Domination or KotH I'll play them to have more rewards , and when I see more rewards TDM I can continue playing BR

Tango Mike6 months ago

There is a difference between constructive criticism and whining/ bit***** I see mostly whining/ bitc**** which helps nothing at all, in fact it does nothing at all but make yourself look bad and tell others just how misserable a person you are. If you hate the game and modern day buisness practices that turn profits (crazy right? People earning money and keeping investors happy to stay afloat and be competative!!!!) Nobody is making you play so there's the door let it hit u on the way out!!!

HEATHEN CAT6 months ago

I cannot understand how PIXONIC manages to ignore the much higher percentage of negative feedback on their own media feeders. Here, FaceBook, YouTube, no media oulet is without a greater majority of negative comments. And yet PIXONIC tries to make us believe that everything is great and that those in the gaming community making the negative comments are in the minority. It's as though they are simply blind to the mayhem they have caused in the game. Actually it appears worse. They are choosing to be DELIBERATELY blind to it.

One might note that there was once a gamer-developers roundtable created to bring forth gamer issues and to discuss future development in the game. PIXONIC's developers must not have liked the truth of that discussion because they never once reached out to the community again after that.
And PIXONIC keeps claiming it is "listening to" the players but it is more than apparent to most of us that they are not. They are just lying right to our faces about it over and over again. Is this just a moral aspect of the company or is it a much deeper social trait of the people who are running the company?

ETC ROBLES6 months ago

Echo Alpha 94, Echo... You're right, any Noob can use Shocktrains... But they'll have to pay big $$$ to get them fast. Ever get slaughtered by 3 snipers with Trebuchets? I don't think they're in discussion to Nerf those. Having Shocktrains makes you Target #1 for the Reds. Shocktrains are fine the way they are.

ETC ROBLES6 months ago

I've been playing WR since August 2017 and deeply enjoy the game. The level of competition IS set by player. Play for free and enjoy the game at lower leagues or invest with money for premium equipment to compete at higher leagues. Whichever you choose, just remember to have fun... It's just a game. ;-)

These are solely my opinion and not intended to upset anyone.

ETC ROBLES6 months ago

Nerfing: Nerfing should happen in the development stage of weapon or bot and NEVER once it has gone LIVE. This is what the test sever is for. Developers should take stock in what Test Server Youtubers say about their weapon or bot while in development. Once a weapon system or bot is placed on the Live Server it should have undergone all the tweeks and nerfing required. Nerfing something once it comes out undermines those who have saved components or spent money on that item. You don't buy a car with 400 horse power to have the dealership do a recall to reduce power 10%. Nerfing after a product comes out shows poor management in development and a quick way to upset players who have invested to have these items. Conversely, fans will accept an increase in weapon system power. Example....Increasing Molot damage made them relevant in higher leagues. Some premium weapons just aren't worth the commitment to acquire components. (Arbalest needs more power to be worth acquiring it). Leave Shocktrain the way it is.

ETC ROBLES6 months ago

Leaving and Tanking: No real solution here. Folks are going to do what they want to do but there should be a way of removing gifts from them. Once a system is in place to DEFINE and IDENTIFY "Tanking" and "Seal Clubing", those suspected of it should receive no supply drops, no gold, no keys, no free chests and be placed in low game priority. Will this stop them... no, but at least they will not be receiving any additional benefits enjoyed by honest players.

ETC ROBLES6 months ago

Supply Drops: This was done RIGHT by Pixonic. There should be a small gift for just loging in and playing a bit. I do agree that the FANS should have a voice in what components are available in Supply Drops but having premium bots every month is unreasonable. Maybe a month long drop of a weapon and every now and then a week long drop of premium bot components.

ETC ROBLES6 months ago

Workshop 2.0: This has to come online and allow players to build components for items they desire. Currently, the ONLY way to get components is to receive them from chests, supply Drops, use work shop points to buy them (VERY limiting) or pay a ridiculous amount of real money for them. $300 US for a bot? 1.5 years to acquire enough components? Workshop 2.0 is important to build up to New levels of equipment and gameplay.

ETC ROBLES6 months ago

Modes: Modes should be separated but I do understand how this would cause long wait times for certain modes. A good compromise would be to split the modes as follows.... Domination with Beacon Rush and Team Death match with King of the Hill.

Echo Alpha 946 months ago

Our problem with Shocktrain is not only about its high damage. Orkan is also very lethal but no one has complaints. Why? Because using Orkan in a effective way and dealing damage while surviving in the battlefield requires perfect skills. While Shocktrain is not so. Any stupid newbie who had purchased it can dominate a team of skillful veterans. Its damage and its range are both too high.

HEATHEN CAT6 months ago

You have effectively banished a large portion of players with Random. No amount of rewards will cause players to enjoy playing game modes that they do not like or enjoy. And punishing players for daring to defy PIXONIC's singular decree that they play those modes or else will only drive off more players.

I stopped playing the moment 3.7 hit the servers. With Random I have only a 33% chance of playing the one game mode that I actually enjoy. Open my mind to other experiences? I tried the other modes and I simply do not like them. I do not want to play them, ever. And so I will not play at all.

I will not be punished like a willful child by a gaming company. I am an adult who has every right to choose for myself whether I enjoy an experience or not. And no amount of prodding by PIXONIC will ever change that fact. I've been a loyal occasionally paying customer and player for well over a year. But that all ended the moment that PIXONIC began to decide for me that which I and others must enjoy.

I feel as though I have wasted my money on a hanger that I can no longer play with. Not without facing the inevitable happening of being placed in the LPQ for choosing not to stay in BR, TDM and KotH matches.

The game is falsely advertised as a game of PvP combat. But that is no longer the case. It has become a rigged gambling and carnival event of relentless strings of tasks for the acquisition of paltry rewards. Teamwork and winning are no longer the main game features anymore. They are not even the secondary features.

The game has become all about the individual and utter selfishness. Rank tanking and clubbing are accepted by PIXONIC as they simply refuse to make the necessary changes to stop it. Not only that but PIXONIC has been endorsing it continually with challenges and sponsorships of videos portraying bad gamesmanship and anti-team behaviours. This is best illustrated with the recent Foolawround challenges where players were actually encouraged to video themselves doing their very best to be a bad player either through their bot builds or by their gaming behaviour or both. Ever heard of the word hypocrisy, developers?

Pyrotech4426 months ago

TryAgainNextTime, Why used the balanced inquisitor when you can get an op spectre with more firepower, more speed, and faster cooldown time?

Pyrotech4426 months ago

*SQUATCH*, Just saying, but I believe there is a difference between tanking and simply leaving. I think they're trying to say that if you need cut your arm then get a bandage, not continue playing. If you need to use the restroom and it is an emergency, then it is ok to turn off your game.
Combining domination, beacon rush, and TDM is a nightmare. I think TDM should be combined with king of the hill, so the ones with sufficient beacons will be there if you need it, and the newer modes on the other button. I also agree that the points provided per beacon and the rate it is given should be increased.
I agree the shocktrain nerf is awesome! Though that alone is not enough to thoroughly balance the game. The redeemer is obsolete to the ember, haechi left fujin in the dust, dragoon is a nightmare, arbalest is like trying to penetrate bullet-proof armor with a foam toy dart gun, and so on. And if something is too op no matter how much they nerf it (*cough* *cough* *spectre* *cough*).
I agree with changing the rewards for the events, though they kind of in a way did that with the second half of the chain.

Pyrotech4426 months ago

Dave Dave Crook, I believe tanking will never be fixed no matter how hard they try unless they come up with an ingenious solution that encourages tankers to not tank instead of forcing them to not tank. What I mean is there are many kinds of tankers and leavers with different reasons to tank. LPQ is really a quitters/leavers league than a tankers. I have to admit

Pyrotech4426 months ago

Shocktrain is being used as a BRAWLING WEAPON! I used a punisher hover earlier today to try to take out an annoying shocktrain bulgasari. I snuck close into the punisher's effective range with nearly full health, but came out with almost nothing at such a close range. Another time I had problems with shocktrain was I was in an ancilot trying to make it to the other side on yamantau, but nearly all the health I lost (I had around 20% health after them all shooting at me) was from shocktrain. Another "shocking" time was when I used an ancilot, full health, then a shocktrain bulgasari and doc shocktrain came out and in a single shot of them shooting at me, those 7 shocktrains broke through my front plate, and I have a level 9 lancelot.

Josue Jungo6 months ago

Any planning on the new mode FFA (Free For All) Pixonic?

Crazy[geo]6 months ago

pixonic, you can remove one random mode and make all this modes

♰ βΔŦŦŁ€ ΔŇG€Ł ♰6 months ago

Possible Shocktrain solutions: Make it so that if it the first shot hits a shield. 1. That shield causes it to bounce back to who shot it. 2. Change how the shot fired travels. If the weapon is a 500m weapon. It should not hit anything else out of the 500m range of the bot that shot it. Meaning it can't hit a guy 500m away then bounce to a guy 600m away from you. 3. Nerf/reduce it's power. It's really a bit ridiculous. 4. Maybe set limits on what weapons can be turned MK2. So there's more control over weapons on the entire platform too.

Exelleration6 months ago

Is it just me, or is this just a forum for everyone to criticize Pixonic.

Dave Dave Crook6 months ago

I'm fed up pix/mail with they're ability of lying but don't have the ability to fix the real issues here.
The random modes is designed to get the players to spend more $$$ on more hangars to play a specific style for that mode . There was never any real problem with the queue waiting time since the day of this game was born, watch any old clips of war robot youtubers playing solo matches. notice any waiting time take no more than 60 seconds? .
Shocktrain get nerf because payxonic bagged enough money so they get nerf. This how pay 2 win is designed selling power over skill. If player's stick to one play style, payxonic won't make money. what you do? You nerf an item and introduce a new item that is better. This push out the old meta and put them into a new meta play style.
The report tanking form is a joke if they actually fixed the MM they wouldn't need a form.
2.0 work shop is taking forever because they're not making any money out of it.
The community has addressed the main issues here billions of time and yet payxonic & mail has always steered the other direction. I can draw a line that payxonic & mail are only focused on selling power over the moral player's value. In another word, this game is a selling service.

Dave Dave Crook6 months ago

I'm fed up pix/mail with they're ability of lying but don't have the ability to fix the real issues here.
The random modes is designed to get the players to spend more $$$ on more hangars to play a specific style for that mode . There was never any real problem with the queue waiting time since the day of this game was born, watch any old clips of war robot youtubers playing solo matches. notice any waiting time take no more than 60 seconds? .
Shocktrain get nerf because payxonic bagged enough money so they get nerf. This how pay 2 win is designed selling power over skill. If player's stick to one play style, payxonic won't make money. what you do? You nerf an item and introduce a new item that is better. This push out the old meta and put them into a new meta play style.
The report tanking form is a joke if they actually fixed the MM they wouldn't need a form.
2.0 work shop is taking forever because they're not making any money out of it.
The community has addressed the main issues here billions of time and yet payxonic & mail has always steered the other direction. I can draw a line that payxonic & mail are only focused on selling power over the moral player's value. In another word, this game is a selling service.

HillBllyBob9426 months ago

Can I please say something about shocktrain?


I’m in silver 2 and people use bulgasari shocktrains, and I hate them. But that doesn’t mean it’s okay to ruin what other people like to play with even if you just have it. Workshop 2.0 will definenly help people who need higher tier weapons, and if shocktrain will be easier for people to get, more people will stop complaining about is. I’m really exited for workshop 2.0 as it will get me the robot I’ve been wanting sconce it came out (*cough* *cough* Bulgasari) and it will help newer players become better than a G.I Patton hanger. In conclusion, shocktrain needs only a small nerf, and workshop 2.0 definetly needs to come out.

The Big Drop6 months ago

A couple cmments...

Re: Workshop 2.0
Gosh, with the pain-points of all various Component deals and inconsistant WSP-Comonent deals leaving me to face facts that Im–for whatever reason– not 'allowed' to get equipment I once wanted despite entering WR 3.0 update. Once having over 130k WSP points that were strategicaly spent on certain deals for desired equipment, I have become complacent with what I have vs. what I desired.

Complacency leads to apathy and apathy does no good for any business.

So, PLEASE TAKE YOUR TIME considering WORKSHOP revamps. Steive for positive pro-player results rather than just seemingly to consider economic impact.

RE: Supply Drops.
I wish the Components were universal rather than specific toward individual items... So I could get what I desire rather than what Im ALLOWED to get. But really, that is a seperate issue sortof, I guess.

Re: Leaving vs. Tanking
This section sounds more like a THREAT rather than an actual attempt to correct something. The time for Threats are over. Action and follow-thru are needed for Leavers, Tankers and FADERS. Dont forget the faders!

Its all of the Talk (threats) minus action that is leading others to misinterpret you as supporting such actions. Talk without action is just talk. Talking about action makes you more part of the problem than a solution. Choose to be a solution.

*SQUATCH*6 months ago

"leaving a match in many cases is still ok" so yes you do support the idea of tanking. To fix tanking simply fix the league system, that is what gives tankers the ability to tank.
The 20% 30% that play king of the hill is not legit. Some people play it to get away from the mess that is random mode. I would be one of them however it takes 10+ minutes to get a match of king of the hill in champion league.
Nerfing shocktrain is great. However when it was first seen in the test server under the name chain lightning the vast majority hated it. A few months pass and you put it in the game and rename it shocktrain. Maybe listen to the player base and the need to nerf weapins and bot would not be needed shortly after the release of the items.
Events have become beyond stagnet. We get the same thing over and over again with different decorations. Three different events would be much better. You can then rotate them so they reamin somewhat fresh.
As for the link to the test server site. The most recent artical on it us from mid November of last year. So i see no reason for this site.

Blurred Vision6 months ago

Can we report Mail.ru & PIxonic for ruining the experience, via a gross Pay-to-Win strategy? As a vet who did the grind, embraced the suck, and spent RM for his max level hangar, getting pounded by full Dash/Inquisitor, Mk2 L12 squads ruins MY gameplay experience. Get WS 2.0 in the game STAT. Stop introducing more bots & weapons and deal with issues like the Taran bug, underpowered Redeemer, and a whacked MM, and then we can talk.

Radar love 6 months ago

If you were to combine the entirety off the player base we could have a bunch of game options. At least then we could really see who likes what.

Koalabear6 months ago

If you do a survey for components, and the overwhelming response is for the Spectre, will you really give us Spectre components, and will you do it long enough for us to complete it?

Nocluevok6 months ago

If there are 4 game modes, three of which are "random", this KoTH news is all "spin". Especially during an event, when one "random" mode excludes the ability to cap beacons. I would bet it's only "concurrent" because pilots don't want to waste time having to play TDM, when the task they're completing is capping beacons.
"If we "randomly" ( 4 - 5 matches in a row) make them play TDM when they need beacons, it will boost the KoTH numbers!"

Naval Shank6 months ago

NO NO NO !!!
TDM with KotH
and Br with domination
not KotH with Br

TryAgainNextTime6 months ago

Can't wait for workshop 2.0. Inquisitor for next supply drop

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